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1940 book for navy cadets. Good refresher of trig. |
Posted by: Rumata - 12-12-2019, 03:47 AM - Forum: General Topics Here
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Gentlemen, found an old 1940 book US Naval Academy, Plane and Spherical Trigonometry , by Kells, Kern, and Bland. Admittedly, majority of the book is trig and exercises, but there are a few spherical trig items which will be helpful if the battery is dead. What I personally like about this book, it does not consider its reader too knowledgable and therefore explains everything to the bone. Which is as a refresher I personally found helpful. Just for information, of course. ;> ;>
Thank you
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New Almanac format |
Posted by: CelNav57 - 06-19-2019, 12:45 PM - Forum: General Topics Here
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All of The Nautical Almanacs have been updated to a better format for viewing.
Improvements are as follows;
- Moon phase graphic
- GHA time separated into 6 hour increments
- Latitude (N or S) provision for each 6 hour increment or when declination changes from N to S.
- Moonrise/set N or S latitude separation
- Sunrise/set N or S latitude separation
- Addition of Equation of Time curve (simple but very handy)
Clear skies,
CelNav57
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Bagnold Sun compass- BillOfTheNorth |
Posted by: Rdutton - 05-24-2019, 11:34 PM - Forum: General Topics Here
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Bill,
Your video about the Bagnold Sun compass is fascinating! Your desert attire is perfect!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-YvH_dUW44
Perhaps because it's so simple to understand....I can't figure it out.
This much I can figure out-
1- Calculate or use a magnetic compass (adjust for variation) to determine the azimuth of the Sun.
2- Align the index figure (which is the Sun's azimuth) to the shadow cast by the gnomon.
Here's where I get "lost". Do I then adjust my course to that the shadow is on, let's say, 270° ?
Could you help further explain?
Great video!
Roland
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Assumed Position: adjustment necessary when using calculator? |
Posted by: Stearmandriver - 05-08-2019, 05:59 AM - Forum: The Sight Reduction process
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Hello all!
Great forum here. I've been browsing and learning for a week; as esoteric as it might be these days, it's nice to have a dedicated place for this subject, for people like me that are just learning.
I have a question I wanted to run by you. I've done a few manual sight reductions using the tables and a Davis Mark 3 with a bowl of water for an artificial horizon, and been getting LOPs with accuracy within a few miles which I feel is acceptable for a beginner with such a hokey setup ;). But I've also been using an online sight reduction calculator just to make the practice process faster (yes it's cheating, but who doesn't just want to play with a new toy for a bit?) I've been using this calculator:
https://www.celnav.de/sightred.htm
Along with the USNO almanac data. Seems to work well; again, LOPs within a few miles. But I'm curious: using the tables, it seems (at least with the tables and forms I've been using) necessary to adjust your initial Assumed Position longitude during the conversion to LHA. This "adjusted" AP longitude is then used in the LOP plotting process.
So: is it necessary to also adjust the longitude of the Assumed Position when using that online calculator? I'm guessing not, because, well, plotting the LOP using the calculated intercept from the original AP seems to work well, and the calculator doesn't supply a modified AP longitude. I'm *guessing* that since this is a calculator, it's solving the appropriate formulae using the actual AP, without any modification being driven by the tables.
Sanity check? Am I right to plot the LOP directly from my original assumed position when using this online calculator?
Thanks!
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Small error in Chapman |
Posted by: Rumata - 03-21-2019, 05:54 AM - Forum: General Topics Here
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Gentlemen.
just found a small error in 1966 Chapman. But then found out it was corrected in 1974 ed. Just for info:
Concerning the usage of maneuvering board. page 430b in 1966 edition. It is an example how to calculate the direction and velocity of the true wind so as to determine whether you can lay the mark on the next tack and the best course you will be able to make to windward.
Without going into details, let's me just mentioned from that paragraph "...To solve for the new tack we mark the wind new apparent direction of 169 ( add 17 to 142) ( this is math wrong 142 +17=159) and then add 45 deg on which you wish to sail. This gives 204 the new course..." Wind is coming from 125 deg. The boat movement through the water caused the apparent wind to shift 17 deg counter-clockwise from its true direction.Then by mistake just added 17 deg twice.
Chapman 1974 ed. , page 452, corrects the error. 142+45= 187.
Am pretty sure you would not use the wrong approach taking by 1966 ed. Nothing for granted. Thank you.
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The North Pole no longer wanders - it runs |
Posted by: Rumata - 01-30-2019, 07:18 AM - Forum: The Sight Reduction process
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Gentlemen, below is the translation from German into English of some interesting fact. Hope, you will find it useful. The translation of the article in the following post was done by Google, therefore there are quite a few strange sentences. But I hope the main content is decipherable.
Magnetic field shiftThe North Pole no longer wanders - it runs
The magnetic field of the earth always seems to be constant. But in truth, it's changing so fast that researchers have to act now.
JAN BERNDORFF
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The magnetic north pole moves from Canada to Siberia. GRAPHICS: NATURE / TSP / BÖTTCHER
January 30, geophysicists from the United States and the United Kingdom have decided to take an unusual, world-wide step: prematurely update the World Magnetic Model. If they did not do it, pilots, ship captains, and even Google Maps users would soon stupidly look out of bed if their GPS ever fails.
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This has to do with the cause of the magnetic field: it is caused by movements in the interior of the earth. From the solid, up to 5000 degrees hot core of iron and nickel heat rises and leads in the outer, liquid core, which is also largely made of iron, to convection currents. Material penetrates outward, cools down again and sinks back into deeper layers. Because of the earth's rotation, there are also lateral movements. And because the material is electrically conductive, it forms the magnetic field around our home planet.
Since the 90s, the North Pole has been traveling 50 kilometers a year
"The circulation can be imagined as boiling water in a pot," says Achim Morschhauser, research associate at the geomagnetic observatory Niemegk of the German Research Center for Geosciences (GFZ) in Potsdam. "The heat rises from below and keeps everything moving, and the magnetic field lines are coupled to these movements, and like spaghetti that you throw into the boiling water, they are constantly being moved."
It is a dynamic system with many irregularities, in which movements alternate again and again with countermovements. In extreme cases, there is even a complete reversal: the magnetic north pole then becomes the south pole and vice versa. Strictly speaking, the North Pole is actually a South Pole in magnetic terms. On average, this occurs every 250,000 years, as revealed by analyzes of magnetized iron particles in old rock layers. The last umpolung of the earth is already 780.000 years ago - the next one appears overdue.
Perhaps the rage of the North Pole is even a harbinger for it. While traveling ten to fifteen kilometers a year during the twentieth century, traveling from northern Canada relatively straightforward across the Arctic Sea to eastern Siberia, he has accelerated to more than 50 kilometers per year since the 1990s. But that does not have to be reversed. Some researchers also believe that the cause of his haste is a horizontal stream of liquid iron more than 400 kilometers wide, which was discovered 3,000 years ago by Canada and Russia two years ago and is traveling Europe at a good 40 kilometers per year - three times faster than the material usually flows in the outer core.
Little is known about the interior of the earth
"Theoretically, the pole can also change its direction of movement at any time, as it did several times in the 19th century," says Achim Morschhauser. "That's the problem: we do not know enough about the convection currents in the Earth's core to anticipate such effects."
Actually, research on the interior of the earth is still less known than that of the sun. Similarly unforeseen, so-called geomagnetic impulses can occur, comparatively sudden peaks in the circulation in the earth's core. Like particularly large blubber bubbles in the saucepan, these outbreaks cause severe disturbances of the Earth's magnetic field.
Other distortions are of longer duration: Already for nearly 200 years - Alexander von Humboldt noted that - we know that the magnetic field over the South Atlantic, including South America and South Africa, is particularly weak. Satellites that fly over this region - but also living beings on the ground - are thereby exposed to increased radiation from space. Experts call this the "South Atlantic Anomaly". Like the acceleration of the North Pole, it could also announce a reversal in polarity . But she does not have to. Often, the magnetic field has recovered from such periods of weakness.
Normally, the model is updated only every five years
In any case, such effects cause geophysicists to prematurely update their model . Usually they do this every five years: the model describes the current state and calculates how the field evolves in the following years - where, for example, the North Pole will move. To do this, the researchers use data from satellites and terrestrial observatories scattered around the globe.
"But the forecasts are linear," says Morschhauser. "If there is a short-term anomaly in between, the forecast is wrong." For example, in 2016, just a year after the researchers last updated their model, there was a strong geomagnetic impetus in South America that diverges from actual forecasting. "Since then, the error has become bigger and bigger," says Arnaud Chaulliat of the University of Boulder Colorado, who works on the world magnet model, the journal " Nature ".
more on the subject
Swarm ofsatellites"Swarm" is to measure the weakening magnetic field
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Ralf Nestler
Now the threshold of tolerance has been reached. The leaders of the world magnet model must act. Otherwise, the deviations in the navigation become so great that a pilot from the USA would land in Luckenwalde on a transatlantic flight by compass bearing rather than in Berlin.
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Last time |
Posted by: pabrides - 11-26-2018, 05:32 AM - Forum: The Sight Reduction process
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Hi Shipmates,
I've got some more practice data for you. I've calculated it already; it provides acceptable accuracy: +- 2 miles
Point one: For the last month I've allowed my chrono to wander off-time to see where it goes and determine the rate. I've calculated the error as plus .181 seconds a day. So taking the daily error into account I had to subtract 7.5 seconds from my observation time. You must do the same. So when you average the following sets of observations remember to subtract the watch error.
Point two: In my part of the world GMT changed to a new day so please examine the dates carefully... you will have to use a different date for each set of observations.
I made an initial math error of one digit (10 minutes) that threw off my first lops by about 12 miles. After finding the mistake my lops landed just where they should... My suggestion: check your figures and math carefully.
Point three: Remember these observations are in the Eastern Hemisphere and the sun is in the Southern hemisphere.
The earlier observations were taken in clear skies, however, the ones taken later were a bit staggered due to the formation of cumulus clouds which covered about 40 percent of the sky. The difference in Z is only 30 degrees but that seems enough in this case for a good fix. Have fun.
Nov 24 GMT
HHMMSS DDMM.M
233849 2455.6
234027 2516.4
234138 2532.5
234255 2548.0
234405 2603.2
Nov 25 GMT
021451 5337.8
021653 5352.4
021953 5414.0
022044 5421.4
022153 5429.2
eye height = 15 ft
index error = 0
body = sun LL
DR = 10 N 124 E
Here's the GPS location just to see how far you're off: 10:14.54 N 123:57.4 E
Please be advised that this is my last attempt to share my experiences with you... Most of you haven't the interest to explore this hobby with me, thus, I'm compelled to seek new friends on another board - this one seems practically dead, I'm sorry to say. In this day and age of the effortless instant email Im much surprised at the lack of interaction.
My sincere respects and appreciation to Capt. Diego Melas for his kindness and generosity. Diego is a fine Italian man who gave me a perfectly wonderful sextant to enjoy, and who has shared his family and his love of Christ with me and mine. I now consider him a friend.
I also thank the few members and ADMIN who have sometimes responded. For those who wish to communicate with me just send a private message - I will check for mail infrequently but would be happy to correspond with those who have interest.
Cheers
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ABC Tables Azimuth Value |
Posted by: albyreto - 11-08-2018, 04:35 PM - Forum: The Sight Reduction process
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Hello!!!
During my home exercises to keep me trained I have encountered some problems in which the result of the value of azimuth is different if calculated with the Eulero's formula or if calculated with the tables ABC
How is it possible?
Can you help me!
One of these act like this:
Dec -14° 39.5'
hc 21° 14.6'
Lat 40N
LHA 315° 5,1'
With the formula:
Z=88°
With ABC tables
Z=133°
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Lesson learned |
Posted by: Rumata - 10-21-2018, 06:47 AM - Forum: The Sight Reduction process
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Greetings,
Am pretty sure me only had that kind of a problem in calcs, but, anyway, let me share it with you. Just in case.
Using intercept method. Getting wrong fixes . Checked anything a few times, every adding/subtraction. By the way, I knew what the right fix should be. Just doesn't work. Then recollected oldl engineering rule # 0: If something is going wrong-check constants. Anyway, found out that when corrected Declination for proper GMT I added the correction "d" without giving any thought why I am doing it. Just added. In my case it was about 10'. Then, when I checked NA page and looked down the page, I realized that Decl. is decreasing. And as soon as I subtracted "d", everything worked fine. Again, I'm sure you know it and pay proper attention to the "tendency" in Decl. to put a correct sign to "d". Then, when you are using , let say, Pub.229, and correct Hc-then the error in "d" for Decl. does affect Hc. And eventually intercept itself.
Never I imagined this kind of error would affect the intercept so much. In my case it did.
Live and learn. ;> ;>
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